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All's a Chord 2: 1997

From: Tom Mackey

Could you tell us something about the specific guitars you used on the new songs from KEYS TO ASCENSION?

"'Be the One': two guitars. I did the backing track with the Steinberger 12-string electric guitar, then I did the lead guitar on top of that with the 6-string Steinberger guitar. 'That, That Is' was a bit more complicated; it starts with the Kohono Spanish guitar and then the Telecaster played the backing track to the whole song. The Spanish guitar gets multi-tracked in two-part harmony, and the Telecaster plays the third part harmony usually, because that was what playing on the original track. So those two guitars do the pretty part, then the 'mean' part is the Telecaster for most of the time. The a few other acoustics appear: the 12-string Martin comes in at a sort of 'Breakdown' section, and the 175 features all of the end of the song when the guitar solo starts, by the time you get to the reprise of the whole song, which comes back rocking again. In between I don't think there's a lot else, there might be some bits of 175. So 175, Kohono, Telecaster."

What kind of sounds were you looking for?

"I was looking for a definite sort of sound for each track and that's why the Steinbergers all got used on that track and I suppose that 'That, That Is' is an opportunity to use any kind of texture that I want, really. It's really mainly about mixing the textures."

Was your selection of guitars pre-determined by the musical compositions already in place and/or did you transform/challenge the music by choosing a particular instrument?

"A bit or each really; I have ideas about what guitar sounds I hear when I first hear the song and I go with that, and other times I fumble around on one guitar and then change the whole thing later; change the sounds here and there, add sounds, so it's kind of a development really, more than a concept although what I do is conceptualize by the limitations I have and the parameters I can reach."

When you returned to the band did you feel any obligation to sound "Yes-like" or is this new phase an extension of your recent playing (outside of Yes)?

"Once again a bit of both. I thought there had to be traditional, identifiable real sounds to Yes, not so reliant on synthesis but sort of like the sound of guitars, for instance, and of course Rick playing piano sometimes and bringing back the real use of the virtuoso style of those sorts of things. But on the other hand one doesn't want to stay in the same puddle all the time so 'Be the One' was an opportunity to use late 80s guitars and add a sort of a bit if different sound.


From: Yves-Tom Gaudet

My name is Sylvain. I met you in Quebec city at le Bar D`auteuil two years ago (I was the guy who got your Martin's strings when every music stores where closed). Thanks for the good show. As I remember you had problems with you back. I hope everything is fine now.

"The back problem I had somewhere or the other in Quebec was a very temporary couple of nights and was all sorted out with a chiropractor."

Can you give some tricks about guitarist's health problems like back problems and blisters on your fingers and other things that guitarists usually have when they're on tour?

"That's really going to come out in a forthcoming book called 'The Guitarist's Survival Kit' by Steve Howe. There are a lot of things you can do but it's more of a total approach then just say, taking a tablet, it's more about how you hold yourself, how you position yourself, there's a lot to do with diet and a lot to do with habits. Blisters on fingers, you should never get those, you just play, you play and they hard, and when the blisters get blistery then that means the next thing they do is get hard, so that's not really a problem. But obviously being on a tour is a bit of a strain so you have to organize yourself so you have time for everything and you can do what you're supposed to do without incredible stress, and that's like preparation, mental preparation. So that's a very big question, a very interesting question, but covered in the forthcoming shorthand book on the guide to being a guitarist."

I was wondering if you could do a Hot Licks guitar video lesson that could be called "Roots" and show where your kind of playing comes from (a bit like you did for your acoustic show) like the influence of Jim hall, West Montgomery, Chet Atkins, and then show how you did apply them on Yes music or your own with an example like the intro of Siberian Khatru or the solo on I've seen all good people etc...It would be very educational. It would be a little "voyage" in the guitar's story through your eyes. It would be a classic! Merci et aurevoir!

"I'm working to build up the necessary ingredients for a CD ROM that will cover Yes music, and you'll be able to see me play stuff, and it will be a little bit more modern than the Hot Licks casual approach, I think it's going to be a bit more imaginative, or I hope. It will be orientated towards Yes parts, Yes licks and stuff like that."


From: Stéphane Bertrand

After many years looking for the particular guitar you use in "Your Move" and "Wonderous Stories", I finally got one in 1993 (Banduria). I'm not sure about the tuning I set. Do you use the same tuning for both songs and what is exactly this tuning.

"I call it a Portuguese guitar, and the tuning I use is two D strings tuned to E, two A strings tuned to B, two D strings tuned to E again, something like two .16s for a high B, and then E which will be two .12s, then the top string is in A flat, which has to be an .008 gauge tuned to A flat. I do use the same tunings on both songs, both songs are based around D or E."

Could you tell me more about the incredible riff you play on the first singing part of "Sound Chaser".

"That's the kind of riff I like to write. It's a bit like 'Pennants' really, those kind of boogie riffs. The thing was it was a collision there of lots of ideas, an exciting collision of vocal parts and guitar riffs, bass, and rhythm and all that. So what can I say about it; if you like it, good."


From: Ray Colon

Some of your best work was done on TALES.

"Thank you very much."

What specific compression and distortion units did you use on the recordings for the 6 strings?

"Most of the compression and limiters in the studio and would have be Urei; in those days there wasn't anything else other than Uries, they were American and Advision Studios had them and Barry Morgan Studios, so it was really about the kind of sound you were trying to compress so when I was using an L5 I used a rock n' roll compression on it, it gave an interesting sound. "

How did you configure your sitar controls (the 6 buttons on the sitar)?

"I had the drone strings off unless I was going to play them and I usually have a bit less of the back pickup than the front pickup."


From: Scott K. McGregor

I would like to ask Steve first how was he approached to appear on the Animal Logic project a while back and secondly what it was like to work with the likes of Stanley Clarke.

"I was asked by Miles Copeland to do two days session work for Animal Logic. Stuart [Copeland] was there all the time and Stuart popped in a few times and I did play on considerable amounts of the album, I was really only planning to play on two tracks but I played on five, I think, but I still haven't gotten a copy of the album, I don't know why!"

I would also be interested to know if he is a fan of Return to Forever, a fusion band that Stanley Clarke once played with.

"Well, I'm a fan of Stanley Clark, but fusion...John McLaughlin, yeah, but everyone else, no. I think it was because really I was a jazz purist, I was into Barney Kessel and Wes Montgomery, and I liked that era of guitarist, and I like guitarists who always sound like they've got a little bit of Charlie Christian in them, otherwise I don't like them, so by the time you get a chorused guitar with no identity and a whole lot of jamming, no, to me, it didn't reach me. That was the age where the guitar had to be chorused and I never did like single line chorused guitars very much. But musically also I found that the beating of rock and jazz together was only done well by Gil Evans, or Miles Davis, or certain other people who pulled it off. It's not an easy thing to do."


From: Paul Stroud

For the 12 string guitar of "Turn of the Century" (GFTO version) were the top E and B strings in pairs, or did you remove one from each pair (making it effectively a 10 string guitar)? I can not detect any 'double notes' on these strings, or any dissonant ringing associated with a 12 string, even when you give it some welly at the end of the song. I, myself, can pick out single strings lower down (eg. just before "I'm sure we know..."), but am too ham fisted to do this on the top two pairs."

"The only time I play a 12-string on 'Turn of the Century' is at the end and it's just normal tuning. The main guitar is a 6-string guitar and the 12 string is only played at the end for the solo, the end cadenza."


From: Misha & Dave

How did you get the solo sound on the "She Gives Me Love" section of "Quartet" on ABWH? It has this weird 'popping' kind of sound that I like.

"That sound is a Stratocaster into a Roland GP8 on setting #16. It wasn't vamping, it was a very compressed sound."


From: Mike Garrett

How long does it usually take you to decide on a particular guitar and sound for a piece of music?

"Deciding on what guitar I play is based guitar on it,' I usually do stuck I playon an instinct about whether I suddenly think, 'I'll play this anything on it think about and then change it later."that, and if I'm

Is it accurate to say that you have a purist attitude toward mixing? I noticed that a lot of your solo records differ significantly from things like Asia and Union in that they are not so awash in reverb. With that in mind I wondered what you thought of the extremely bass-heavy mix of KEY'S TO ASCENSION's new studio tracks. The kick drum packs a mighty punch on that CD!

"I like a natural sound, I suppose like Ken Scott, or Gary Langham, I mean the group sounds like a group, so in that way, yeah, I'm a sort of purist. [The bass] basically was a return for Yes to having the bass up because what Chris played was so worth hearing, we had it up loud. That was the way we got the sound in the 70s, we had the bass as a musical instrument, not a just a pad doing the root. So it was a return to that but I don't know whether the bass drum was unnecessarily heavy, it might have been because it was mixed by an American, and in England we are a bit more reserved."

Back in the early days of Yes, video always seemed to show you guys playing and recording together in one take. Did you indeed do this or did you go back and re-record guitars. How many guitar tracks did you tend to use?

"Very often it was three people out there at once, usually me, Chris, and Bill or Alan, rarely it was Rick and Jon, and if I was sitting out because I didn't have a part or Rick put a more important part then he would play and I wouldn't which was fun. I keep a mixture of always trying to keep original guitars somewhere in the track doing something and other times I would completely would change. Like DRAMA, I changed every guitar on the whole album is overdubbed just because I was going for far more distinction in the sounds and maybe I wasn't so happy with the basic guitar. I don't think 'Tempus Fugit', some of that, is original guitar."

My understanding is you only had 16 or 24 tracks for those early albums. "Yesstories" seems to indicate Chris almost always re-recorded his bass as overdubs after the fact. Now, with modern recording technology, do you tend to use more tracks or do more recording separately from the group (Yes or otherwise)? If so, do you play with them to get scratch tracks down?

"If you get it right it doesn't matter whether you've got three tracks or 108, loosely when you overdub you might fix things. You might try to overdub a whole new bass on something but there again you might say at the end of the day it's not as good as the live one so I would just insert little bits to fix those bits you didn't like, so you do it every single which-way, there's no pattern, there's no strategy, it's just that you do what you have to do and then you sort it out later if needs be."

 

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